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Bollywood preaching Osho August 12, 2006

Posted by rajAT in fun, osho, philosophy.
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Hiren Shah has found out quite a few parallels btw Salaam Namaste , Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna and Osho philosphy. Osho is all for pre – marital and extra marital affairs. Osho says ,generally “People go on living in misery thinking that, “Next life I will find another woman — or another husband — but this life nothing can be done. It is better to accept.” So people remain somehow satisfied, whatsoever the situation is, and they call it contentment — it is only consolation. And they have rationalized all these ugly things in many ways.”

Solution no 1- Pre-marital relationships as a gauge of compatibility- This was shown very well in the movie “Salaam Namaste”:-

“Now this is so illogical. Unless a man or a woman has lived in many pre-marital relationships there is no possibility of choosing a right partner. This is such a simple phenomenan! Unless you have experienced many women and men in your life, how can you choose who is going to be the right person to live with? But they don’t allow any pre-marital relationships, so people start falling in love at first sight — which is nonsense. Then, of course, the same people say love is blind. First they throw acid in your eyes and then they say love is blind! You see the strategy? Don’t allow boys and girls to meet and mingle with each other so that they can experience many people before they decide — don’t allow them. Suffocate their sexual energy!

Pre-marital relationship is a very scientific phenomenon. It has to be allowed, it has to become part of human rights.Tomorrow you may find a far more beautiful woman, a far more beautiful man, then your intelligence will say that it is better to choose. Then why go on being tortured by your past? Remain free for the future, open to the future. So I say only for a longer period, when you decide.

When you have enjoyed many relationships you will be able to choose, you will be able to judge what kind of woman or man suits you, what kind of woman or man is a nourishment.

I am all for pre-marital relationships. Without them man will remain insane.”

Soltuion no 2- Extra marital relationships. Show in the movie “Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna“.
 
Extra-marital relationships help marriage, they don’t destroy it. It is always good to have a little change, just at the weekend. It does not harm at all. That idea — that if a man starts having a little love affair with some woman other than his wife it will destroy the marriage — is absolutely wrong. It will help, it will renew the relationship, because one gets tired. Man is, after all, human. Don’t ask impossible things! One gets tired — the same woman, the same man. One loses all taste.

If you have to eat the same food every day, like I do, you will get fed up.

Once in a while just a little taste of a new woman, a new man revives your interest in the old woman and the old man. You start thinking, “After all, she is not so bad.” A little change is always good.

I am not against extra-marital relationships. The people who are against them are really teaching you possessiveness in an indirect way.

When I say I am not against extra-marital relationships I am teaching you non-possessiveness.

If a man is tired of the same woman — the same contours, the same geography, the same topography — once in a while a little bit different geography, a little bit different landscape…and he comes home again interested in exploring the old map. It gives a break — a coffee break. And after each coffee break you can again get involved in the same work, the same files, and you open them and you start working…. The coffee break helps you.

If people want to live together in a deep intimacy, they should not be possessive. They should allow freedom. And that’s what extra-marital relationship is: freedom. But people are very strange.”

Salaam Namaste was all about pre-martial exploration and Kabhi alvida na Kehna is about extra marital exploration. Osho or for that matter his great contemporary Krishnamurthy were men too ahead of their times and many of their teachings went unimplemented during their lifetimes.

If only our elders can understand all this :). Btw brilliant work Hiren.

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1. Hiren - August 12, 2006

Thank you but frankly, in our society this is a pipedream.

2. sparsh - August 13, 2006

Hmmm…Read Hiren’s post and then came to yours from everyday entrepreneurs. I wonder if this is just a male-psyche to think pre-marital and extra-marital relations are fine. I, for one, don’t see anythign wrong in pre-marital relation as long as expectations for both the parties are crystal clear. SN was not a happy movie to watch with pretie struggling through a phase which is supposed to be a blesssing for a woman.
Somehow extra-marital relations involve more risks and to decide if one should go for it or not depends entirely on how much is at stake.
Identical personalities are simply not found so one of the partners is gonna perceive things differently from the other anyway. If you can handle a heart break with ease…Sure..go ahead!Also, ‘coming back’ to the old territory after having tasted the forbidded fruit may not be as easy as it may appear. Do you really think one would not wanna try ‘some more’ having tasted it once???
Whatver the case, little bit of experimenting shouldn’t hurt much… who knows Osho may be the way to salvation and peace!

3. cc - August 14, 2006

How utterly stupid. Barring a few exceptions, most people prefer monogamous relationships, be it the mistress or the wife.

Expected better judgment from you.

4. rajAT - August 14, 2006

@Hiren – Yeah thts true.

@Sparsh – I know its nt easy. Human is an emotional being.

@CC- Don’t know abt monogamous bit, know quite a ppl who double date. Btw the post was tagged under fun.

5. Prashant - August 14, 2006

I am also ok with Pre Martial Relationship but the idea should be to explore compatibility and not having some sexual Adventure .but most of the “Live In ” relationship i know are simply reduced to this sexual adventures only .

a little commitment and undersanding can go a long way than any freedom to walk out can ever hope to accomplish . Here human beings are designed wrong once you have an exit option you never know how much you can adjust and you always excercise that Exit option in haste .

if things don’t work out than you should be able to walk out without a social pressure or guilt . but advocating Pre + Post Matial Relationship is a bit to far cry specially in india

6. SSKhalsa - August 14, 2006

It was a blessing to read this post. Marriage is a man made institution. It was not there in past from ever and it may disappear in future. I heard some thinkers calling marriage “a socially approved prostitution” as it is never love which determines marriage arrangements but social security ,status and money plays 99% of the role. I think we should respect more love than marriages. No social and financial and children factors should be used to blackmail couples to live together. We should be open for future as with Osho as new age is born and we are seeing it appearing in horizon now.

7. Paola - February 27, 2008

Regarding extra marital affairs…I think Osho talks about human being as if they were pure objects, biological machines reduced to metaphorical foods for wich our taste for them get tired and needs change. If there were a deep love connection between lovers (both in a marriage or exclusive relationship), there would be enought there in many levels of being not to have an interest in someone else. Evolution between partners comes from commitment, communication and understanding, not from inflicting the other emotional pain by sleeping around. When you are in love there is such an intensity and passion that no one else would be appealing to be intimate with. Some people can not be in love and they call this type of attachment possessivness. Very shallow perspective! But if you consider your sexuality the core of your essence, go for it an leave monogamous people alone!

8. Paola - February 27, 2008

If I made some gramatical error, please forgive me, English is not my first language but I think concepts and opinions are more important anyways.

9. Rajneesh - August 21, 2008

Accepting extra marital relationships on personal level is difficult, i am sure not a single man in India can accept that publicly that his wife sleeps with some other man. All advocating extra marital relationships and open minded attitude are shallow speakers. They are not main stream social beings. All philosophies get lost when life is faced practically. Such relations can exist only in a society which is not based on the concept of marriage, an idea far from reality. Osho did give us an insight about such issues and their possible remedies but in reality his ideas were utopian. A civilisation without the concept of marriage is beyond imganiation in our times, such a drastic change will or may happen after 300-400 years ahead. not possible now. Orthodoxy never dies so easily.

10. vishal - September 11, 2008

How stupid – it impossible to say osho is all for premarital relations.
If one understands and explores osho seriously it is impossible to make such a statement. If anything can be said – it is – osho was all for life and its reverence…dont pluck some part of his statement and make it everything…there are 600 books – read atleast 100 before declaring declarations….

11. MelanSnow - November 4, 2008

One should not do anything which make him feel guilty. Also should not hurt anybody.

12. sapna - February 15, 2009

agree…life is free…can not be bounded in chains…..marriage is also a chain……which along with time….gets stronger on you….we should be free…should spend time with a person..till the time we feel we can spend it…it is our life…than why the society and the law decide that how long we need to stay together……..

13. sapna - February 15, 2009

liked it

14. subhi - February 2, 2010

As much I have understood OSHO and his teachings ….his core essence was to meditate and raise your conciousness. Rest all is how you percieve….there is no escape to life by sleeping around or calling marraige a misery. Marraige is a law of society and you mind run away from comitment but if you sleep around you will ultimately find this is not the truth of life either, Try to find your own balance of life by meditating and self realizing. Neither marraige, nor sleeping around is important but its absolute essential to know yourself and what is important for you to lead a conflict free, peaceful life.

Subhi


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